NEW YORK The idea of Sara Bareilles and Pharrell working on music sounds odd enough � but its not nearly as awkward as the actual event.
The piano-playing songstress was exploring a new sound for her sophomore CD when she decided to try and work with the hitmaker for Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake, Gwen Stefani and more. When she walked in for her recording session, Pharrell was getting a haircut.
It went downhill from there.
"Im not a very good collaborator and I didnt really know how to do it. ... I felt really uncomfortable with just the process and so I think thats why we didnt really get anything out of it," Bareilles said.
Though the 30-year-old earned Grammy nods for her breakthrough hit, "Love Song," Bareilles said she struggled to come up with new material for the follow-up to her platinum-selling 2007 debut, "Little Voice."
"I hadnt really prepared for what would come after that," she said.
Then she recorded "Uncharted," a pop tune about messing up � and moving along. Things got easier after that.
Bareilles talked recently about the steps that led to "Kaleidoscope Heart," out this week.
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The Associated Press: Why is songwriting with others tough for you?
Bareilles: Im not a great co-writer. I have a lot of respect for people that can do it well, Im just terrible at it. ... I dont know. I feel like what comes out of it is always something I feel a sense of detachment to and it sort of makes me feel like, I dont know, unable or unwilling to want to sing it as a part of my normal repertoire.
AP: Those songs you recorded with Pharrell � where will they end up?
Bareilles: I would love to probably re-approach it instead of using what we ended up with. Id love to do it again now that its not such a new experience. I think I have that tendency where my knee-jerk reaction is to sort of clam up and close myself off from doing something Ive never done before. And its totally something Im trying to let go of. I dont know why I get so, I dont know, nervous? I think I was star-struck, honestly.
AP: How did you come up with the first single?
Bareilles: "King of Anything" was sort of a pep talk, its actually very similar to the way "Love Song" came about. ... It was written at the point where I was just starting to share the music and then people start to give you their feedback on it and youre like, "Oh, you dont like that part and you think I should change those words." Laughs. ... Theres lots of people that arent going to like this record, you know, that dont like my music anyway and people feel very vocal. Like, people are really brave in what they say to you these days.
AP: Did you always want to be a singer?
Bareilles: I dont know if I articulated that in my brain as a child, but I think I always felt like that was where I was the most confident and at peace and felt like it was my calling. I think I always thought I would do theater though because I grew up doing musical theater. So I think I always sort of anticipated, like, being on Broadway or something.
AP: Heading to Broadway soon?
Bareilles: Oh god I would love it. ... I have mad respect for the performers on Broadway and I would only want to do it if I could do an incredible job. ... So I think I would have some homework to do before I could step up on stage.
AP: A lot of contemporary singers have delved into a more electro-pop, dance sound. Are you next?
Bareilles: I feel like it would feel like wearing somebody elses underwear because its really not laughs ... it doesnt feel kind of congruent with who I really think I am musically. But you never know. Theres great collaborations out there and I think there would be a way to do it musically where it felt good to me, but its not immediately a genre Ive always loved or wanted to do.
AP: You should do a song with Carlos Santana.
Bareilles: Me and Santana? OK. Can you make that happen? Give him a call.
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